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Andrey71
post 8th April 2012, 11:53 AM
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Please help me with pos. 28 on Radio Luxembourg Top 30 Charts on week ending December 8th, 1981. Next week this song charted at No.30 and then out of the Chart.

You help is very appreciated.
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post 8th April 2012, 01:21 PM
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Easy Andrey. 28 is John Denver & Placido Domingo "Perhaps Love"
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post 8th April 2012, 01:32 PM
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Oh, thanks a lot, Dave !!! smile.gif
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Andrey71
post 19th April 2012, 06:59 AM
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Another cry for help.
This time i'm looking for
No. 25, 26, 28 in the Radio Luxembourg Charts dd September 1, 1981
No. 30 in Charts dd October 3, 1981
No.27 in Charts dd October 13, 1981
And looks like i haven't got Chart of August 25, 1981. sad.gif

In the source i use there is Chart dated October 13, right after The Chart of October 3. Is it inaccuracy of the publisher or Radio 208 has changed their Chart schedule at that certain period of time? And if the last then what date is right? Have they been airing the Charts on Saturdays or Tuesdays back in 1981?

Thanks in advance


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post 19th April 2012, 03:23 PM
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Right then Andrey.

Dates go wrong somewhere. It should be 25th Aug, 1st Sept, 8th Sept, 15th Sept, 22nd Sept, 29th Sept, 6th Oct, 13th Oct & so on.

RTL put it out on Tuesday evenings, to be a week ahead of something called Radio One (whatever that is)!

27 on the 13th Oct is PROCESSION - NEW ORDER
30 on the 3rd Oct (should be 6th Oct, that one) is LOVE HAS COME ROUND - DONALD BYRD
1st Sept: 25 EUROPE - JOHN FOXX, 26 PASSIONATE FRIEND - TEARDROP EXPLODES, 28 HOLLIEDAZE - HOLLIES

25th Aug Top 30
01 ANEKA
02 SOFT CELL
03 E L O
04 HUMAN LEAGUE (LOVE ACTION)
05 LOBO
06 GARY NUMAN
07 HOOKED ON CLASSICS
08 SHAKIN STEVENS
09 UB40
10 GENESIS
11 ROLLING STONES
12 DURAN DURAN
13 TENPOLE TUDOR
14 TIGHT FIT
15 ULTRAVOX
16 CLIFF RICHARD
17 NOLANS
18 RANDY CRAWFORD
19 MODERN ROMANCE
20 STEVE WONDER
21 KIM WILDE
22 GIDEA PARK (BEACH BOY GOLD)
23 BILL WYMAN
24 STARTRAX DISCO
25 U2 (GLORIA)
26 DOLLAR
27 BUCKS FIZZ
28 HI GLOSS
29 O M D (SOUVENIR)
30 POINTER SISTERS (SLOW HAND)

Hope that helps!

Have you got these all together in a file or something? If so could have you got the 1967 to 1980 run of charts too?

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Andrey71
post 19th April 2012, 04:29 PM
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Dave, thank you very very much!
You really helped me.
No, unfortunately i haven't got 70's and 60's Radio Luxembourg's Charts except for the ones that you posted here and Andreas Grimmig posted somewhere 11-12 years ago. So quite a random selection of Charts. There are more or less completed charts of 1975-78 period, but again with some gaps. Let me know if you need them.

I'm going to collect Radio Luxembourg's 80's Charts that found altogether.


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post 19th April 2012, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(Andrey71 @ Apr 19 2012, 05:29 PM) *
Dave, thank you very very much!
You really helped me.
No, unfortunately i haven't got 70's and 60's Radio Luxembourg's Charts except for the ones that you posted here and Andreas Grimmig posted somewhere 11-12 years ago. So quite a random selection of Charts. There are more or less completed charts of 1975-78 period, but again with some gaps. Let me know if you need them.

I'm going to collect Radio Luxembourg's 80's Charts that found altogether.

Have you the link to Andreas Grimmig's postings, because I seem to have lost that one?
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post 19th April 2012, 05:05 PM
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http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=R...amp;sitesearch=
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post 19th April 2012, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(Andrey71 @ Apr 19 2012, 06:05 PM) *

Cheers Andrey. But I've think this was the one:

http://www.andreas-grimmig.de/seventies/

It's the April 67 to December 72, we are missing. Of course before that RTL used a specially prepared Weekend NME chart (not the one in the paper). That was June 66 - March 67 & prior to that the normal NME chart from January 1960 - May 1966. Of course, all the RTL Charts after April 67, were all blatantly made up, anyway. A touch of the Luxembourg Playlists & guesses to be ahead of the BBC. Sometimes it worked & others, it just did not.

And the 40s & 50s were all Sheet Music Charts until the end of 1959. In the UK, Record Sales overtook Sheet Music Sales at the end of 1957. Hence the BBC starting their own chart in March 1958. The one everyone followed & not the lunacy of Record Retailer, as some try to say.


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post 20th April 2012, 12:15 PM
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Dave, thaks a lot for the link! I never even knew this site exists.

Actually, the station of the stars had the longest-running chart show. "Top 20" started in Autumn 1948. This means that it became the first chart countdown on british radio and set the pattern of chart shows for the decades that followed. Its first presenters were Teddy Johnston and Pete Murray. And listening at 11 o'clock on a sunday night.
I read somewhere (maybe it was even posted by you, Dave) that during the 1970s and 1980s the Radio Luxembourg chart was split up in various music genres. Names like "Top 30 UK", "Top 30 Disco" and "Easy-Listening Top 30", and were on the air almost every night.

It's obvious that significance of RTL Charts is not in their correctness, but in appreciation that it's Radio Luxembourg. The ones who's been living in the 70's and 80's (the ages when radio had meaning) knows what figures 208 meant those days.
Besides it's just amusing to see how Luxy have been trying to guess how the BBC charts could look like and compile their own charts according to this guess.
They also have changed the records at the Top spot very often (generally just every week). So some records that barely reached Top5 on the BBC charts might have topped the list here. It's interesting to learn which singles predicted to be the Charttoppers on the main chart, but failed to make it. Even i'm not talking about those songs entered the RTL charts that didn’t even make it into the “BBC Top 50/75”!

Thank you once again. I think I may be required your help again with clarification of some certain positions in 80's Luxy's Charts. Hope you don't mind if i ask you for little assistance. On the other hand, be sure to let me know if you need something I can do for you.
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post 15th August 2012, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(Andrey71 @ Apr 20 2012, 01:15 PM) *
Dave, thaks a lot for the link! I never even knew this site exists.

Actually, the station of the stars had the longest-running chart show. "Top 20" started in Autumn 1948. This means that it became the first chart countdown on british radio and set the pattern of chart shows for the decades that followed. Its first presenters were Teddy Johnston and Pete Murray. And listening at 11 o'clock on a sunday night.
I read somewhere (maybe it was even posted by you, Dave) that during the 1970s and 1980s the Radio Luxembourg chart was split up in various music genres. Names like "Top 30 UK", "Top 30 Disco" and "Easy-Listening Top 30", and were on the air almost every night.

It's obvious that significance of RTL Charts is not in their correctness, but in appreciation that it's Radio Luxembourg. The ones who's been living in the 70's and 80's (the ages when radio had meaning) knows what figures 208 meant those days.
Besides it's just amusing to see how Luxy have been trying to guess how the BBC charts could look like and compile their own charts according to this guess.
They also have changed the records at the Top spot very often (generally just every week). So some records that barely reached Top5 on the BBC charts might have topped the list here. It's interesting to learn which singles predicted to be the Charttoppers on the main chart, but failed to make it. Even i'm not talking about those songs entered the RTL charts that didn’t even make it into the “BBC Top 50/75”!

Thank you once again. I think I may be required your help again with clarification of some certain positions in 80's Luxy's Charts. Hope you don't mind if i ask you for little assistance. On the other hand, be sure to let me know if you need something I can do for you.


I used to write down the Luxembourg Top 30 starting in 1972 and on into 1974 I think, if any of those are missing in files somewhere I certainly have quite a few (if not all, written in pencil in notepads...)
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post 16th August 2012, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(popchartfreak @ Aug 15 2012, 06:55 PM) *
I used to write down the Luxembourg Top 30 starting in 1972 and on into 1974 I think, if any of those are missing in files somewhere I certainly have quite a few (if not all, written in pencil in notepads...)

The 1972 ones would be particularly interesting if you could post them?
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post 11th November 2012, 07:08 AM
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QUOTE(Andrey71 @ Apr 20 2012, 12:15 PM) *
I read somewhere (maybe it was even posted by you, Dave) that during the 1970s and 1980s the Radio Luxembourg chart was split up in various music genres. Names like "Top 30 UK", "Top 30 Disco" and "Easy-Listening Top 30", and were on the air almost every night.


At last i've found old Radio Luxembourg programmes schedule

Monday, December 15, 1980
7.00 Golden Years. 8.00 Nightline News. 8.30 Chart Champions. 9.00 Americas Top 45's. 11.00 Golden Hour. 12.00 Nightline News. 12.30 Night Tracks. 2.00 Big Bands.
Tuesday, December 16, 1980
7.00 Golden Years. 8.00 Nightline News. 8.30 Beatle Hour. 9.00 Great Britain's Top 30. 11.00 Golden Hour. 12.00 Nightline News. 12.30 Night Tracks. 2.00 Rock'n'Roll
Wednesday, December 17, 1980
7.00 Golden Years. 8.00 Nightline News. 8.30 Disco Computer Top 20. 9.00 Top 60 LPs. 10.00 The Number Ones. 11.00 Golden Hour. 12.00 Nightline News. 12.30 Night Tracks. 2.00 The Show Songs
Thursday, December 18, 1980
7.00 Golden Years. 8.00 Nightline News. 8.30 Top Of The Pops. 9.00 Adult Contemporary Rock Top 30. 11.00 Golden Hour. 12.00 Nightline News. 12.30 Night Tracks. 2.00 Elvis Presley
Friday, December 19, 1980
7.00 Golden Years. 8.00 Nightline News. 8.30 Chart Champions. 9.00 Top 20 Imports. 11.00 Golden Hour. 12.00 Nightline News. 12.30 Night Tracks. 2.00 Sinatra.
Saturday, December 20, 1980
7.00. Street Heat. 8.00 Gold Rock'n'Reggae. 9.00 Top 30 Show. 11.00 Golden Hour. 12.00 Big L.Country. 1.00 Top Ten Country. 2.00 Greatest Love Songs Ever Aired.
Sunday, December 21, 1980
7.00 Golden Years. 8.00 Nightline News. 8.30 Top 10 Past and Present. 9.00 Top 20 Disco Show. 11.00 Golden Hour. 12.00 Nightline News. 12.30 Night Tracks. 2.00 Big Bands

It proves that they really had lot of different Chart shows those days...
I wonder what difference between Great Britain's Top 30 which was aired on Tuesdays and Saturday's Top 30 Show? I believe the Charts we were talking in this thread was called Great Britain's Top 30 back in 1980.
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post 11th November 2012, 03:34 PM
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The Saturday top 30 was the New Record Business Magazine Top 30. Which (of course) was based on a Fri to Thurs period. UK's Biggest Top 30, I think they called it. That started in March 1978.

Top 10 Past & Present was where Capital got their idea, for Pick Of The Pops - Take Two, from. By 1983, this had become a Vintage Chart type show & played a couple of old Top 20s. In early December 1983, they did December 66 & December 76. Both out of the Radio Luxembourg archives, of course. That one, ran from 10pm - midnight. I can't recall what directly, what they called it. Something like "Flashback", I have an inkling of.


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post 12th November 2012, 09:07 AM
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Thank you, Dave!
Your comments are exclusive and helpful as ever! smile.gif
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post 12th November 2012, 03:08 PM
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The "Disco Computer" chart was the Disco chart from Record Mirror, as compiled by James Hamilton
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post 12th November 2012, 05:53 PM
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The "Disco Computer" chart was the Disco chart from Record Mirror, as compiled by James Hamilton


Thanks a lot, fchd! smile.gif Do you have those Charts, by any chance?
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post 12th November 2012, 05:54 PM
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back in the day I did for least 1980 & 1981. Might still have some Record Mirrror's in storage somewher
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post 12th November 2012, 06:12 PM
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back in the day I did for least 1980 & 1981. Might still have some Record Mirrror's in storage somewher


If you had time to post 'em here or just PM that would be just marvellous!!!
In fact, I'm looking for any kind of specialists Charts (as they call them now): Reggae, Heavy Metal, Futurist, Disco, Indie etc... Especially if they came from 70's and 80's era...
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